I'm looking for practical advice. Personal tips, good books, educational links, and any & all support will be much appreciated.
I crave grains constantly. I figure my body is after the protien or the carbs or both. The only way I currently know how to prepare them is to cook them, but then I must not be getting what I need from the grains by cooking them or else the cravings would stop after I eat them and yet I find myself craving them again within hours. So I'm beginning to see what Leslie means about how cooked food can be addictive.
A dear friend of mine made a profoundly simple suggestion to me the other day & I could feel the difference immediately. She said instead of cooking my oatmeal in the morning, soak it overnight instead. I tried it & I felt lighter, less sluggish & more energetic than usual all morning AND I was not craving grains at lunch time!
So I am looking for more life-altering, but hopefully relatively simple changes like that. Does this soaking thing work for other grains? Which ones? I have had a little experience w/ sprouting alfalfa seeds & mung beans in a jar, but that's about it. I am wide open for more sprouting suggestions too.
Many thanks!
JL
I crave grains constantly. I figure my body is after the protien or the carbs or both. The only way I currently know how to prepare them is to cook them, but then I must not be getting what I need from the grains by cooking them or else the cravings would stop after I eat them and yet I find myself craving them again within hours. So I'm beginning to see what Leslie means about how cooked food can be addictive.
A dear friend of mine made a profoundly simple suggestion to me the other day & I could feel the difference immediately. She said instead of cooking my oatmeal in the morning, soak it overnight instead. I tried it & I felt lighter, less sluggish & more energetic than usual all morning AND I was not craving grains at lunch time!
So I am looking for more life-altering, but hopefully relatively simple changes like that. Does this soaking thing work for other grains? Which ones? I have had a little experience w/ sprouting alfalfa seeds & mung beans in a jar, but that's about it. I am wide open for more sprouting suggestions too.
Many thanks!
JL
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 12:06 AMYou might have luck if you try drinking Kombucha. Its a probotic drink made from cooked tea, but its cultured back into a living food. Candida releases chemicals that stimulate your cravings....its a survival mechanism they picked up to get their host to bring them what they crave. Probiotics compete with these harmful strains of related bacteria, so you might be able to supress your cravings with kombucha. -
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 4:29 AMWhat Sentience said....Kombucha can get expensive. There are some people that make their own to save money. They can be found on this tribe:
kombuchatea.tribe.net/
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 8:34 AMYou can sprout raw buckwheat groats. Eat them after just a soak of 4-6 hours, right away or another 8-12 hours when the little tail of the sprout begins to show.
Also, you can get kefir culture and use it in a number of ways. Grain kefir, fruit kefir, and young coconut water kefir.
Some people eat soaked wheat berries after they've sprouted a short tail..... but not everone likes the saccharine sweetness of wheat, and we all may have wheat and other grain sensitivities due to eating them for much of our lives in cooked form.
Grains have some small amounts of opiods, which contributes to their addictiveness.
I've had trouble drinking kombucha more than on occasion, as have many other raw fooders. It has a fuzzy beerlike effect, which is fun, but it seems to put the intestinal floral a bit out of normal kilter.....(of course cooked food eating puts one always somewhat out-of-sorts, so there might not be a notice of any difference when consuming kombucha regularly).
Oat groats may be the best bet, but most oats are lightly steamed, even if labeled 'raw' in the bulk bin. You need to go to a raw foods source if you want a raw and sproutable oat groat.
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 12:21 PMKombucha is beneficial to the intestinal flrora. It wont disrupt it in a negative way. If anything, its the caffeine that is affecting your digestion, and this can be made worse if the diet is composed of too many "damp cold" foods. Raw Vegan foods tends to be more damp-cold, but this is totally correctable while remaining raw and vegan with just a little mindfulness. But if the caffeine is causing the food to move through you a little too fast, you might try making the kombucha will less caffeine either by making the tea less strong or by using half green tea (lower in caffeine) and something like Rhodiola which is an amazing tonic for the body. The only affordable way to drink kombucha daily is to make it yourself.
Sprouted berries is really what you want to eat for health....but Im not sure how much it will help with cravings....It might. It certainly will help blood sugar associated cravings because foods in their raw state have better complex carbohydrates that keep your blood sugar up for longer, so if the cravings are blood sugar related they may help. However, the candida like the simple sugar and cooked starch, so they only way to get rid of them is to starve them out with a raw fruit and vegetable fast, or rebalanced your flora by adding pro-biotics. Im not sure if cultured soy is raw, but there is soy yogurt also....but you want to eat raw soy only in moderation, unless its fermented which removes the bad stuff. Its fine in moderation, but people have problems with raw soy as a main protein source when used daily.
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 11:06 AMYou can also sprout quinoa and millet. I don't like the taste of sprouted quinoa, but sprouted millet has a nice nutty taste. -
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 13, 2008 - 9:35 PMi met a young man at our local food coop last saturday who dried the mother and made a frisbee out of it
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:07 AMLyoness, i think Sentience is onto something with the Candida idea...it really does appear to have an intelligence that will control you and force you to feed it with grains and sugars. And it's true, the only way to get rid of it and rebalance is to quit everything that it thrives upon, at least for a little while. I did a Candida cleanse a few years ago and then did two rounds of Chinese herbs which took care of it. Nasty stuff, that Chinese tea...but my brain fog went away and my gut healed.
During my first month 100% raw, i ate soaked oat groats for breakfast to help transition myself away from the things i depended upon for breakfast (breads, pastries, grains, waffles, etc..) But i was quickly disappointed with the fact that chewy oat groats is nothing like the comforting mush of cooked oatmeal. After a few weeks of chewing, and chewing, and chewing this chalky rubble in my mouth, i realized that i had transcended the need for cereal in the morning. By then i was fully in smoothie mode, and because i was eating so much less food than before, i found that the smoothie was all i needed until lunchtime in the late afternoon. I abandoned grains altogether, after this oat groat experiment.
I've messed around with sprouted wheat and buckwheat (which makes a lovely granola when you dehydrate it), and i'd still like to try my hand at making manna breads and cookies and such, but i really feel best when i don't eat grains at all. If you can go without them for a month, maybe you'd get to that point too. It depends on whether your addiction is emotional or physical. If it's physical, it may be a Candida-related issue. If it's emotional, then you have to approach it differently. Yoga, meditation and dance help me with that part--it's a form of self-mastery to learn how to analyze your desires and break them down to the real elements within, and it's truly exhilarating when you achieve this.
As for the Kombucha, i've had mixed feelings about it. I used to make it and i drank 4-8 oz. every day and i felt fantastic. It gave me a lot of energy and i found myself craving it all day long (which i found somewhat disconcerting but just kept drinking it). After about a month, i got these weird patchy spots on my legs that resembled ringworm in texture and color. I was told that Kombucha can't live in the body due to the temperature, but because these patches disappeared immediately after i stopped drinking the stuff, i surmised that it had taken up residence on my skin where the body's temperature is actually cool enough to sustain living Kombucha. Nobody in the Kombucha tribe had ever heard of this happening, but it creeped me out so much that i stopped making it. Now i buy a bottle now and then because my son loves it, but we only drink small quantities and i am careful not to drink it when i've had fruit because i feel that it causes excess fermentation in the gut.
I think the grain Kefir is a good idea and it might help you to transition away from the starch of grains. I certainly don't mean to spark a debate over this, but in my opinion, grains are best utilized by cud-chewing animals. We humans may have gotten too smart for our own good, learning how to harvest and process grains to the point of being able to make donuts and hamburger buns which are killing people. If we were to live solely on the food the earth has given to us in its perfect, natural state, we would be eating fruit, nuts, legumes and vegetables. This is the basis of my diet, and consequently, my spiritual path.
btw i'm surprised there is still no moderator here. It's been a few weeks since i've been to this tribe (had to take a break, it was just too much...) but i'm glad to see that it's been steered back on topic so i'll probably be around more often now.
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Tue, May 20, 2008 - 12:21 AMKombucha is considered a detoxifier. When i was doing my heavy metals cleanse, I broke out with pimples all over my whole body. It stopped as soon as I stopped my regimen. Overall I think it was helping me detox. The caffeine might be an issue for some people though. I dont drink it daily. More like weekly or bi-weekly when my batches are ready.
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Re: addicted to cooked grains ~ help!
Wed, May 21, 2008 - 12:45 AMY'all rock! You're full of helpful ideas & support.
Intrigued by Sentience's Kambucha suggestion, I followed DMX's link to the tea tribe where I found a really cool guy in Austin who kindly brought me a bucha~baby, which is now happily fermenting above my frig. Thanks to y'all's experience I now know to ease into it & drink it in moderation.
I'm going to do a little more research into the kefir thing. I try to limit my soy intake, so has anyone here tried culturing kefir w/ other legumes or grains? I would imagine that, like fermenting tempeh, culturing the soy would make it more digestible, but still, soy doesn't sit real well w/ me. I did a quick google on grain kefir, but it just brought up tons of stuff about kefir grains, not how to culture actual grain (ie rice, wheat, millet, etc) into kefir, so any links or suggestions would be great.
I'm also sprouting some millet. I hope I like their nuttiness. Keep those good sprout suggestions coming. I just got a new book called The Sprout Garden, so I'm going to grow in that direction for sure. When I run out of oatmeal, I may try sprouting some oat groats to see if that suits my palette any better than M7's ;~).
Interesting what y'all are saying about candida. I've been big into pro-biotic supplements ever since I went completely vegan almost 2 years ago b/c I cannot abide soy yogurt. Still, I do enjoy a good beer from time to time, I have quite the sweet tooth, & now this inability to stop craving cereal & bread & rice & quinoa constantly makes me wonder if y'all may be on to something w/ this candida business. I'll have to do some more research to see if this could be the source of the problem & what all correcting it entails.
As a general question for you more experienced raw folks, do you just not eat many grains like rice & wheat? Or do you sprout them? Or is there some other way to prepare them that I haven't thought of like the trick of soaking oatmeal? (Which is soooo tasty if you soak them overnight in apple juice w/ walnuts & a sprinkle of cinnamon, btw ;~))
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